Porn Thread Bans

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The Porn Thread Bans are thread bans that were instituted on a variety of times from July 2014 onward on the forum. The first of these incidents occurred on the 11th of July, 2014, and the second occurred on the 25th of October, 2014.

The July 11, 2014 Ban

The thread "Facepunch Avatar Rules Are Too Lenient" was created by ROFLBURGER, who had initially wished to bring the topic up in the Ask Us About The Forums thread if it weren't for the fact that garry had closed it so that questions and concerns such as his could receive more attention by being their own threads.[1]

After rapid discussion, later that day, on the 4th page, the decision was made by the mods, revealed by dai, that NSFW threads would be banned.[2] The thread's title was updated to include "(and it's being dealt with- page 4)" to indicate that something was indeed being done on the topic.

The mods have been discussing this and related issues for the past two days and we're sorting out a number of issues that we've been lax on. You guys have PROBABLY noticed the 'what turns you on thread' was wiped the other day.

> anyone who remakes that one or similar NSFW threads that have been closed will be permabanned. You should understand when a thread is closed it's for a reason, there's no autolocks.
> the 'hot girls' thread and anything similar is currently being discussed. They're clearly marked NSFW and are full of legal content, but there's other implications we may have to consider in it being accessible on our website and we may need to tighten policy. [current mod vote is in favor of removal- we're pretty sure you can find porn on at least one other website]
> if it becomes clear you're a pedo posting loli or whatever you're going to be removed and potentially reported regardless of the "victimless crime" arguments. FP should not a safe haven for this kind of shit. I've already warned the catgirls thread to just flat out avoid anything that could be misconstrued as such, '1000 year old witch' excuses or not.
> NSFW avatars are going to be dealt with much more strictly once we've got a consensus on the line to cross (and maybe some old forum functions) set up.
> we don't care how upset you are that an avatar has anime or a furry getting blown up like a balloon in it. If it's NSFW, report the user. If it only hurts your fragile sensibilities go cry a river somewhere else instead of derailing threads to bitch about it

This is the warning to clean up before we do.

daiGeneral Discussion - Facepunch Avatar Rules Are Too Lenient (post #121)

An effective blanket ban on all porn, any new porn threads were subject to closure and the thread creator permabanned. This incited fury and debate amongst Facepunchers, until then-mod Rusty100 revealed on the 14th of July, 2014 that the ban was being lifted.[3] All the threads were recreated, and many were banned for flaming, predicting moderation, and similar bannable things.

Despite this, however, the rumblings among users over the status of NSFW material on the site continued to rumble, and it wouldn't even be a few months later, in October, that discussion flared once more.

The October 25, 2014 Ban

By the 15th of October, many complaints had been lodged at the "What Turns You On" thread series located in Fast Threads, largely due to its inherently NSFW nature resulting in a smorgasbord of pornographic content being posted there. As such, the decision was made by the moderators to hold a vote on the topic - specifically the locking and banning of threads that are NSFW in nature, featuring real nudity or the showing of genitalia, drawn or real (this was specified due to the trend of users using avatars that are lewd, but aren't pornographic in nature, that was popular on the forum). Discussion of normal pornography would still be permitted, but posting images, discussing fetishes and just generally "weird and disgusting porn posting" would not.[4][5]

The vote lasted for 10 days and was neck-and-neck. Debating and shitstorms occurred regularly, though mostly it was shitflinging, banning and Facepunchers trying to be funny. At the end, calculating in misvotes and alt accounts, the vote for keeping porn threads was 1,006 and the total for banning the porn threads was 1,339,[6] resulting in the "What Turns You On" thread series, the "catgirls thread" series, and other such 'creepy weird porn threads'[7] to be banned.[8][9]

Aftermath and Impact

While the October 25th, 2014 ban sated the wants of many when it came to NSFW threads, the topic over avatars that pushed the boundaries of lewdness raged on, as some users adopted innocuous avatars that, when cropped, appeared more lewd than they originally were, or in other cases, the reverse occurred with borderline pornographic avatars that seemed more innocuous than they were due to being cropped.

The topic was finally confronted head-on in late October and early November of 2017 within the Forums Discussion thread series, as then-mod Reagy adopted an avatar that, while not in of itself pornographic (only depicting a scantily-clad catgirl subtly flopping onto a sphere), was sourced from a porn game.[10] Reagy apologized in an inappropriate manner[11] and, after discussing the matter with the other mods, was prompted to change their avatar to something less inappropriate, assisted by Pascall and approved by the remaining mods.[12] Unfortunately, while the avatar itself appeared to be innocuous at first glance, subtle details (and the not-so-subtle file name) revealed it to be more risque than originally thought.[13] To users that had previously debated over the issue, they felt as though Reagy continued to push the boundaries of what was acceptable.

Among the jokes over what to change Reagy's avatar too, and serious discussion on other issues regarding the moderators (especially the attitude presented by select newer mods), a final decision was made on the issue of lewd avatars,[14] a new clearer set of rules and Moderator Code of Conduct document were written up (live on stream too),[15][16] and after some further discussion, Reagy was demodded.[17]

In regards to the threads, the "Catgirl Megathread" was permitted to return in February of 2016,[18] with the requirement, among others, that NSFW material has to be linked, otherwise the poster gets banned. The "Hottest Illustrated Girls" thread [19] also made its return shortly after, sharing the same rules adopted by the Catgirl Megathread.

References

  1. General Discussion - Facepunch Avatar Rules Are Too Lenient: https://facepunch.com/threads/1408499
  2. General Discussion - "Facepunch Avatar Rules Are Too Lenient (and it's being dealt with- page 4)" (post #121): https://facepunch.com/threads/1408499?p=45357795#post45357795
  3. General Discussion - "Facepunch Avatar Rules Are Too Lenient (and it's being dealt with- page 4)" (post #1264): https://facepunch.com/threads/1408499?p=45385812#post45385812
  4. General Discussion - Should we allow the weird porn threads (IE: "What turns you on" type threads with furry/vore/beastiality etc type shit) on the forum?: https://facepunch.com/threads/1431319
  5. Fast Threads - "The "What turns you on" thread: Zombie edition" (post #4063): https://facepunch.com/threads/1409423?p=46243620#post46243620
  6. General Discussion - "Should we allow the weird porn threads (IE: "What turns you on" type threads with furry/vore/beastiality etc type shit) on the forum?" (post #5707): https://facepunch.com/threads/1431319?p=46331336#post46331336
  7. General Discussion - "Should we allow the weird porn threads (IE: "What turns you on" type threads with furry/vore/beastiality etc type shit) on the forum?" (post #5722): https://facepunch.com/threads/1431319?p=46331569#post46331569
  8. Fast Threads - "The "What turns you on" thread: Zombie edition" (post #4945): https://facepunch.com/threads/1409423?p=46281401#post46281401
  9. Fast Threads - "catgirl thread v. freedom" (post #776): https://facepunch.com/threads/1409366?p=46331576#post46331576
  10. General Discussion - "Forums Discussion v3 - Post about Tudd and win a 1 month ban" (posts #4048-4051): https://facepunch.com/threads/1576300?p=52832598#post52832598
  11. General Discussion - "Forums Discussion v3 - Post about Tudd and win a 1 month ban" (post #4125): https://facepunch.com/threads/1576300?p=52832841#post52832841
  12. General Discussion - "Forum Discussion v4" (post #196): https://facepunch.com/threads/1584487?p=52860133#post52860133
  13. General Discussion - "Forum Discussion v4" (post #219): https://facepunch.com/threads/1584487?p=52860269#post52860269
  14. General Discussion - "Forums Discussion v3 - Post about Tudd and win a 1 month ban" (post #4208): https://facepunch.com/threads/1576300?p=52834648#post52834648
  15. General Discussion - "Forums Discussion v3 - Post about Tudd and win a 1 month ban" (post #4918): https://facepunch.com/threads/1576300?p=52850866#post52850866
  16. General Discussion - "Forums Discussion v3 - Post about Tudd and win a 1 month ban" (post #4940): https://facepunch.com/threads/1576300?p=52851300#post52851300
  17. General Discussion - "Forum Discussion v4" (post #671): https://facepunch.com/threads/1584487?p=52862425#post52862425
  18. Fast Threads - Catgirl Megathread v3 - Third times the charm~: https://facepunch.com/threads/1506659
  19. Fast Threads - Hottest Illustrated Girls V6: https://facepunch.com/threads/1511719